Two monk weapons, can't decide... - Guild Wars Forums

Warpy · Aug 03, 2006, 01:04 AM // 01:04

I'm stuck between a decision in choosing:

Brohn's Holy Rod (1 Handed)

* Fire Damage 11-22 (req. 9 Divine Favor)
* Halves skill recharge of Healing Prayers spells (Chance: 20%)
* Halves casting time of spells (Chance: 10%)

With.....

Incetol's Focus

* Energy +12 (req. 9 Healing Prayers)
* Halves casting time of Healing Prayers spells (Chance: 20%)
* Health +30

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Or......

The Scar Eater (two handed)

* Energy +10
* Fire Damage 11-22 (req. 9 Divine Favor)
* Halves casting time of Healing Prayers spells (Chance: 20%)
* Halves skill recharge of Healing Prayers spells (Chance: 20%)
* Health +30
* Health +30

Shadow-Hunter · Aug 03, 2006, 01:20 AM // 01:20

2 Energy + 10% chance to ½ cast time VS 30 hp..

Imo i would take the Wand + Offhand becouse i dont like staffs, and i find the ½ cast + 2 extra energy better than the 30 extra hp >_>

~Shadow

Shadow-Hunter · Aug 03, 2006, 01:21 AM // 01:21

Crap.... Sry lagged -.-

~Shadow

Warpy · Aug 03, 2006, 01:40 AM // 01:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow-Hunter

2 Energy + 10% chance to ½ cast time VS 30 hp..

Imo i would take the Wand + Offhand becouse i dont like staffs, and i find the ½ cast + 2 extra energy better than the 30 extra hp >_>

~Shadow

So Brohn's Holy Rod and Incetol's Focus is the better option? Don't forget the Scar Eater has +60 health...

Markaedw · Aug 03, 2006, 02:00 AM // 02:00

That depends does the half cast stack? If they stack I would go with the wand, if they don't, I would go with the health. 2 pts of energy is not going to be missed.

heist23 · Aug 03, 2006, 02:26 AM // 02:26

Take both, if possible. The Brohn's and Incetol's is a good standard combination, albeit a little unusual with the 10% universal. The Scar Eater (which is inanely easy to come across, imo) is nice with the 20/20 healing, but it also gives you -2 energy. May not seem to be much, but hey, Energy is the one thing that monks can't get enough of. So, switch to The Scar Eater whenever you're in a tight spot and your HP is dropping, and use the focus/rod combo for standard use.

Warpy · Aug 03, 2006, 02:30 AM // 02:30

With the Scar Eater it's a great staff and the stats are very good, but... it looks like any Holy Staff, very boring. Whereas the rod looks great.

I have Brohn's Staff too, which is good also.

Doug Clifton · Aug 04, 2006, 08:01 PM // 20:01

a tip to all, most of the time +health is basically useless. You'll find that +armour is much better if you can get it

Cherno · Aug 04, 2006, 08:27 PM // 20:27

I agree with doug, but for different reasons. Assuming this is for PvE use? Monks usually backline, extra health is not very important. I would rather have the extra energy and the ability to cast faster or more frequently.

Thom Bangalter · Aug 04, 2006, 08:33 PM // 20:33

well, It has always been said that a monk who can't manage their energy with a difference between 49 and 51 shouldn't be monking at all.

if this is for pve use (which I assume it is because in pvp you would probably be using prot stuff unless you're doing HA) I would just go with the first set because I prefer focii, and all those halves to casting and recharge are going to be very beneficial. Just remember to learn to get some energy management and you shouldn't have any problems with you're gear, for pve purposes anyway.

Warpy · Aug 07, 2006, 09:50 AM // 09:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Clifton

a tip to all, most of the time +health is basically useless. You'll find that +armour is much better if you can get it

Interesting point... what would you recommend in terms of a good focus?

Reine Stormshroud · Aug 07, 2006, 10:20 AM // 10:20

It'd be nice to have both of those sets at hand when you are monking. At times you could need the +Health.. and then you need the casting time. More weapon sets = Makes things easier, and makes you more versatile. :]

skreet preacha · Aug 08, 2006, 01:01 PM // 13:01

extra health for casters is basically a waste, IMHO, casters should rarely ever be taking damage or dying. IMHO, a simple 20/20 cast/recharge collectors offhands are the best foci, and they are available in every attribute (healing, divine, protection, fire magic, death magic, etc).... nowadays, they usually have perfect greens or collector wands to go with them. i personally go with Brohns Holy Rod, becuz it has the max healing mods on them (20/10 is max for rod). and yes, they do stack with the offhand, so added up, thats 40% faster recharging, and 30% faster casting.... before that, i used a green Healing Wayward Wand, thats energy +5^50, 20% healing recharge. that works good too, as well as the crafted Healing Rod, thats energy +5^50, 20%healing casting... with standard tattoos, that boosts ur energy up to 55, with my set with Brohns Rod, its 50 energy. energy should never be a concern for a good monk, so the difference of 5 energy doesnt make any difference to me.

now, if they only made a 20/10 rod for death necros, lol. :-P (they dont, as of yet. :-P)

mighty xxl · Aug 09, 2006, 08:36 AM // 08:36

Skreet, it does not stack. 20% offhand and 20% wand does not stack. You will not have 40% recharge, but 36% if i remember corectly.
It has been debate it many times

Aug 03, 2006, 01:04 AM // 01:04	#1
Warpy Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Australia Profession: Mo/Me	Two monk weapons, can't decide... I'm stuck between a decision in choosing: Brohn's Holy Rod (1 Handed) * Fire Damage 11-22 (req. 9 Divine Favor) * Halves skill recharge of Healing Prayers spells (Chance: 20%) * Halves casting time of spells (Chance: 10%) With..... Incetol's Focus * Energy +12 (req. 9 Healing Prayers) * Halves casting time of Healing Prayers spells (Chance: 20%) * Health +30 ________________________________ Or...... The Scar Eater (two handed) * Energy +10 * Fire Damage 11-22 (req. 9 Divine Favor) * Halves casting time of Healing Prayers spells (Chance: 20%) * Halves skill recharge of Healing Prayers spells (Chance: 20%) * Health +30 * Health +30

Aug 03, 2006, 02:00 AM // 02:00	#5
Markaedw Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: N/	That depends does the half cast stack? If they stack I would go with the wand, if they don't, I would go with the health. 2 pts of energy is not going to be missed. Last edited by Markaedw; Aug 03, 2006 at 02:27 AM // 02:27..

Aug 03, 2006, 02:30 AM // 02:30	#7
Warpy Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Australia Profession: Mo/Me	With the Scar Eater it's a great staff and the stats are very good, but... it looks like any Holy Staff, very boring. Whereas the rod looks great. I have Brohn's Staff too, which is good also. Last edited by Warpy; Aug 03, 2006 at 02:51 AM // 02:51..

Aug 03, 2006, 01:20 AM // 01:20	#2
Shadow-Hunter Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Denmark Guild: [HH] [Hax] Profession: Mo/	2 Energy + 10% chance to ½ cast time VS 30 hp.. Imo i would take the Wand + Offhand becouse i dont like staffs, and i find the ½ cast + 2 extra energy better than the 30 extra hp >_> ~Shadow

Aug 03, 2006, 01:21 AM // 01:21	#3
Shadow-Hunter Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Denmark Guild: [HH] [Hax] Profession: Mo/	Crap.... Sry lagged -.- ~Shadow

Aug 03, 2006, 02:26 AM // 02:26	#6
heist23 Journeyman Join Date: Jul 2005 Profession: R/Mo	Take both, if possible. The Brohn's and Incetol's is a good standard combination, albeit a little unusual with the 10% universal. The Scar Eater (which is inanely easy to come across, imo) is nice with the 20/20 healing, but it also gives you -2 energy. May not seem to be much, but hey, Energy is the one thing that monks can't get enough of. So, switch to The Scar Eater whenever you're in a tight spot and your HP is dropping, and use the focus/rod combo for standard use.

Aug 04, 2006, 08:01 PM // 20:01	#8
Doug Clifton Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Oceanside, CA Guild: The Shadowed Assassins [DaRk] Profession: W/Mo	a tip to all, most of the time +health is basically useless. You'll find that +armour is much better if you can get it

Aug 04, 2006, 08:27 PM // 20:27	#9
Cherno Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Stars of Destiny Profession: E/	I agree with doug, but for different reasons. Assuming this is for PvE use? Monks usually backline, extra health is not very important. I would rather have the extra energy and the ability to cast faster or more frequently.

Aug 04, 2006, 08:33 PM // 20:33	#10
Thom Bangalter Grindin' Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: MO Profession: E/Mo	well, It has always been said that a monk who can't manage their energy with a difference between 49 and 51 shouldn't be monking at all. if this is for pve use (which I assume it is because in pvp you would probably be using prot stuff unless you're doing HA) I would just go with the first set because I prefer focii, and all those halves to casting and recharge are going to be very beneficial. Just remember to learn to get some energy management and you shouldn't have any problems with you're gear, for pve purposes anyway.

Aug 07, 2006, 10:20 AM // 10:20	#12
Reine Stormshroud Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: Valkyrie Einherjer [VE] Profession: Mo/	It'd be nice to have both of those sets at hand when you are monking. At times you could need the +Health.. and then you need the casting time. More weapon sets = Makes things easier, and makes you more versatile. :]

Aug 08, 2006, 01:01 PM // 13:01	#13
skreet preacha Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: DDC Profession: W/Mo	extra health for casters is basically a waste, IMHO, casters should rarely ever be taking damage or dying. IMHO, a simple 20/20 cast/recharge collectors offhands are the best foci, and they are available in every attribute (healing, divine, protection, fire magic, death magic, etc).... nowadays, they usually have perfect greens or collector wands to go with them. i personally go with Brohns Holy Rod, becuz it has the max healing mods on them (20/10 is max for rod). and yes, they do stack with the offhand, so added up, thats 40% faster recharging, and 30% faster casting.... before that, i used a green Healing Wayward Wand, thats energy +5^50, 20% healing recharge. that works good too, as well as the crafted Healing Rod, thats energy +5^50, 20%healing casting... with standard tattoos, that boosts ur energy up to 55, with my set with Brohns Rod, its 50 energy. energy should never be a concern for a good monk, so the difference of 5 energy doesnt make any difference to me. now, if they only made a 20/10 rod for death necros, lol. :-P (they dont, as of yet. :-P)

Aug 09, 2006, 08:36 AM // 08:36	#14
mighty xxl Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Team Harmless[TH] Profession: Mo/	Skreet, it does not stack. 20% offhand and 20% wand does not stack. You will not have 40% recharge, but 36% if i remember corectly. It has been debate it many times